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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3445</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priyank, exactly the same thing happened when I saw Manasarovar in the Himalayas! :)

You have expressed it much better in your comment - about relegating everything to external, unexplainable agents.

I don&#039;t exactly understand why the &quot;typical Mahendra post&quot;, &quot;Mahendraish conclusion&quot;, etc., but I take it as a sign that my posts are reflecting me. That, in turn, is a good sign for me, because it indicates that my writing is getting more transparent. So, thank you! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priyank, exactly the same thing happened when I saw Manasarovar in the Himalayas! <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You have expressed it much better in your comment &#8211; about relegating everything to external, unexplainable agents.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t exactly understand why the &#8220;typical Mahendra post&#8221;, &#8220;Mahendraish conclusion&#8221;, etc., but I take it as a sign that my posts are reflecting me. That, in turn, is a good sign for me, because it indicates that my writing is getting more transparent. So, thank you! <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Priyank</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3439</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mahendra, 

Once, when I hiked a hill and saw the entire Machu Picchu site before me, I experienced something that I had never felt before. For example, I feet transported away from the real world, and suddenly things like car and coffee don&#039;t matter. Due to a lack of better word, I simply called them divine.

Divine intervention, along with words like destiny, luck and blessing as &#039;acts of God&#039; makes no sense to me. These factors relegate everything to external, unexplainable agents and are often used as an excuse, by many, to absolve themselves of their misdeeds.

I like your Mahendraish conclusion. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mahendra, </p>
<p>Once, when I hiked a hill and saw the entire Machu Picchu site before me, I experienced something that I had never felt before. For example, I feet transported away from the real world, and suddenly things like car and coffee don&#8217;t matter. Due to a lack of better word, I simply called them divine.</p>
<p>Divine intervention, along with words like destiny, luck and blessing as &#8216;acts of God&#8217; makes no sense to me. These factors relegate everything to external, unexplainable agents and are often used as an excuse, by many, to absolve themselves of their misdeeds.</p>
<p>I like your Mahendraish conclusion. <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nita, blame that on Atul and Asuph! :)

But if you need what we call an &quot;utaara&quot; in Marathi, meaning a light break, just read the previous post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nita, blame that on Atul and Asuph! <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But if you need what we call an &#8220;utaara&#8221; in Marathi, meaning a light break, just read the previous post!</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3321</link>
		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahendra, you have started writing really heavy posts nowadays! Not to take away from the post, because it is thoughtful and very good in fact. Its just my state of mind at present. Difficult to think of these things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahendra, you have started writing really heavy posts nowadays! Not to take away from the post, because it is thoughtful and very good in fact. Its just my state of mind at present. Difficult to think of these things!</p>
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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TRF: A fascinating exchange of ideas between Einstein and Tagore - thanks for sharing. It really doesn&#039;t surprise me that these questions have engaged thinkers for so long.

The &quot;take-away&quot; for me from that dialogue is Tagore&#039;s likening of lines/colors to melody/harmony - a very interesting, apt analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRF: A fascinating exchange of ideas between Einstein and Tagore &#8211; thanks for sharing. It really doesn&#8217;t surprise me that these questions have engaged thinkers for so long.</p>
<p>The &#8220;take-away&#8221; for me from that dialogue is Tagore&#8217;s likening of lines/colors to melody/harmony &#8211; a very interesting, apt analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rational Fool</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3276</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rational Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every state of the mind/brain is chemically induced - the result of a vast array of neural transitters and ions moving in and out of the neurons through billions of synapses :)

A must read, if not read already - the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/einstein_tagore.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conversation between Einstein and Tagore&lt;/a&gt; on truth and beauty in the context of music, religion, and science. And, my take on it &lt;a href=&quot;http://therationalfool.blogspot.com/2006/12/mind-your-head.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every state of the mind/brain is chemically induced &#8211; the result of a vast array of neural transitters and ions moving in and out of the neurons through billions of synapses <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A must read, if not read already &#8211; the <a href="http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/einstein_tagore.htm" rel="nofollow">conversation between Einstein and Tagore</a> on truth and beauty in the context of music, religion, and science. And, my take on it <a href="http://therationalfool.blogspot.com/2006/12/mind-your-head.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/09/28/what-the-hell-is-divinity/#comment-3254</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asuph:

Didn&#039;t people consider earthquakes and plague as divine intervention to compensate for man&#039;s evil deeds?

I can understand if you apply the term only in a positive sense, but I don&#039;t think this restriction applies to everyone.

The epistemological razor is a tool to arrive at the essential traits of concepts - it doesn&#039;t provide the full meaning and context, only the essential characteristics.

I did not understand where the &#039;chemically induced state&#039; part came from.

By identifying human beings as mammals only identifies an essential trait - it does not &#039;put them down&#039; to the level of all mammals.

Re: PS: yes, I understood that perfectly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asuph:</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t people consider earthquakes and plague as divine intervention to compensate for man&#8217;s evil deeds?</p>
<p>I can understand if you apply the term only in a positive sense, but I don&#8217;t think this restriction applies to everyone.</p>
<p>The epistemological razor is a tool to arrive at the essential traits of concepts &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t provide the full meaning and context, only the essential characteristics.</p>
<p>I did not understand where the &#8216;chemically induced state&#8217; part came from.</p>
<p>By identifying human beings as mammals only identifies an essential trait &#8211; it does not &#8216;put them down&#8217; to the level of all mammals.</p>
<p>Re: PS: yes, I understood that perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: asuph</title>
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		<dc:creator>asuph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; In essence, anything that appears to transcend human understanding in general appears divine to us. This is what remains after applying the razor.

And that which &#039;uplifts&#039;, or &#039;liberates&#039;, or brightens, or lightens ... The thing is, deep fear can also elude human understanding, or extreme cruelty? Divine has to be be, by definition &#039;better&#039;, which could again be loosely defined :). 

Problems with razors is that they&#039;re flat. Sharp but flat. So they cut out anything in the path that&#039;s causing a problem to smoothness ;-).

The thing is, given a choice between a chemically induced state that makes me &#039;feel&#039; divinity, and feeling the same, through something like music ... The razor will put them down on same level. I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m comfortable with that ... However much my rationalistic leanings ... 

A typical &#039;mahendra&#039; post: analytical, well researched, and clear.

Greate read,
asuph

PS: I&#039;m sure music does not have a monopoly. It&#039;s very personal thing for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; In essence, anything that appears to transcend human understanding in general appears divine to us. This is what remains after applying the razor.</p>
<p>And that which &#8216;uplifts&#8217;, or &#8216;liberates&#8217;, or brightens, or lightens &#8230; The thing is, deep fear can also elude human understanding, or extreme cruelty? Divine has to be be, by definition &#8216;better&#8217;, which could again be loosely defined <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . </p>
<p>Problems with razors is that they&#8217;re flat. Sharp but flat. So they cut out anything in the path that&#8217;s causing a problem to smoothness <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>The thing is, given a choice between a chemically induced state that makes me &#8216;feel&#8217; divinity, and feeling the same, through something like music &#8230; The razor will put them down on same level. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m comfortable with that &#8230; However much my rationalistic leanings &#8230; </p>
<p>A typical &#8216;mahendra&#8217; post: analytical, well researched, and clear.</p>
<p>Greate read,<br />
asuph</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;m sure music does not have a monopoly. It&#8217;s very personal thing for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Music Divine &#171; Gaizabonts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Music Divine &#171; Gaizabonts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: This Twitter conversation was extended to blogs, with Amit&#8217;s post about The Musical Language and Mahendra&#8217;s post about What the Hell is Divinity? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: This Twitter conversation was extended to blogs, with Amit&#8217;s post about The Musical Language and Mahendra&#8217;s post about What the Hell is Divinity? [...]</p>
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