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		<title>By: SS</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-3008</link>
		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M, just wanted to let you know that I have forwarded your feedback about the comment policy to BlogHer.
Meanwhile, let&#039;s keep writing and discussing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, just wanted to let you know that I have forwarded your feedback about the comment policy to BlogHer.<br />
Meanwhile, let’s keep writing and discussing <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sakshi</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-2953</link>
		<dc:creator>sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.Mahendra
We can&#039;t actually comment on the judgement as it has two sides.While we see the negative effects that their is no guarantee that while the child,whose in the womb of a child(referring to the girl) will b well taken care of..she is unaware of the precautions she should take during her pregnancy she doesnt even knows what child birth is like more over the pain of child birth will add to her ill mental condition..flip side aborting the child against her will can b futile to her again..why kill a life when someone can takecare of the child so there is no end to the discussion now the decision has been taken let nature takes it care....i rally appreciate all of your efforts that we all our so concerned about the poor one....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Mahendra<br />
We can’t actually comment on the judgement as it has two sides.While we see the negative effects that their is no guarantee that while the child,whose in the womb of a child(referring to the girl) will b well taken care of..she is unaware of the precautions she should take during her pregnancy she doesnt even knows what child birth is like more over the pain of child birth will add to her ill mental condition..flip side aborting the child against her will can b futile to her again..why kill a life when someone can takecare of the child so there is no end to the discussion now the decision has been taken let nature takes it care.…i rally appreciate all of your efforts that we all our so concerned about the poor one.…</p>
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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snigdha,

SC Judgements are available online &lt;a href=&quot;http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/chejudis.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I spent more than an hour searching for this one, but couldn&#039;t find it as I think it is not online yet.

I too am happy wherever I could find society engaged in meaningful discussion, but I must confess it was a bit rare. As I mentioned in my post, most general public opinion I&#039;ve seen is simply dismissive of the SC judgment. What is heartening is that they are voicing their opinions on this tragedy, meaning they are concerned about this unfortunate girl and her to-be-child, which is a welcome break in the Bollywood-caste-politics-cricket-religion-obsessed nation of ours.

The comment policy is not an issue of cumbersomeness but of principle and willingness. The web has moved to open standards, and most websites allow visitors to choose different authentication mechanisms to avoid spammers. In the blog world, Blogger IDs, Email, and Open ID are usually sufficient for sites to filter out bots and spammers. If each self-hosted blog site started requiring registrations, it would become unwieldy and hence is considered a bad practice. However, I will still relook at BlogHer since I think there are many wonderful women bloggers there like you. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snigdha,</p>
<p>SC Judgements are available online <a href="http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/chejudis.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I spent more than an hour searching for this one, but couldn’t find it as I think it is not online yet.</p>
<p>I too am happy wherever I could find society engaged in meaningful discussion, but I must confess it was a bit rare. As I mentioned in my post, most general public opinion I’ve seen is simply dismissive of the SC judgment. What is heartening is that they are voicing their opinions on this tragedy, meaning they are concerned about this unfortunate girl and her to-be-child, which is a welcome break in the Bollywood-caste-politics-cricket-religion-obsessed nation of ours.</p>
<p>The comment policy is not an issue of cumbersomeness but of principle and willingness. The web has moved to open standards, and most websites allow visitors to choose different authentication mechanisms to avoid spammers. In the blog world, Blogger IDs, Email, and Open ID are usually sufficient for sites to filter out bots and spammers. If each self-hosted blog site started requiring registrations, it would become unwieldy and hence is considered a bad practice. However, I will still relook at BlogHer since I think there are many wonderful women bloggers there like you. <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahendra,
Good to know you are feeling better now.
I have no illusions about how long it must have taken you to put this post together. I too had to read several news stories before I could get a fairly clear picture of what was going on.
I wished we could have some direct access to court records online.
Yes, it was a complex case and from reading reports, it appeared to me that both the courts made a sincere effort to protect the woman and her rights.
I am actually happy to see society engaged in a meaningful discussion -- however divisive to address the issue of inclusiveness.

Thank you for stopping by at BlogHer and reading my post. Appreciate the comment.
[About the comment policy on BlogHer, I did not realize it was that problematic. I know they have a registration policy to track traffic/readers, but I thought it was fairly simple. Nita signed on to it too.
Anyhow, if it&#039;s too cumbersome, let me know.]

Keep writing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahendra,<br />
Good to know you are feeling better now.<br />
I have no illusions about how long it must have taken you to put this post together. I too had to read several news stories before I could get a fairly clear picture of what was going on.<br />
I wished we could have some direct access to court records online.<br />
Yes, it was a complex case and from reading reports, it appeared to me that both the courts made a sincere effort to protect the woman and her rights.<br />
I am actually happy to see society engaged in a meaningful discussion — however divisive to address the issue of inclusiveness.</p>
<p>Thank you for stopping by at BlogHer and reading my post. Appreciate the comment.<br />
[About the comment policy on BlogHer, I did not realize it was that problematic. I know they have a registration policy to track traffic/readers, but I thought it was fairly simple. Nita signed on to it too.<br />
Anyhow, if it’s too cumbersome, let me know.]</p>
<p>Keep writing. <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mahendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snigdha,

First, thank you. This subject invokes such strong passions and opinions, that you were actually the first to comment on how I&#039;ve structured my post. It was a difficult one to write, given the complexity and profoundly grave topic, to be balanced as much as possible.

I think you have done a very good post as well. I can see the effort to be as comprehensive as possible. I am not commenting directly on your post because the site requires a separate registration for commenting. I don&#039;t think you have missed anything.

The Supreme Court of India is one of the institutions which has retained my highest respect. And when it overturns a HC order, it is certainly worth deep thought. As you can see from the comment thread above, I have also gravitated towards supporting the SC&#039;s decision, while understanding the rationale behind the HCs order at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snigdha,</p>
<p>First, thank you. This subject invokes such strong passions and opinions, that you were actually the first to comment on how I’ve structured my post. It was a difficult one to write, given the complexity and profoundly grave topic, to be balanced as much as possible.</p>
<p>I think you have done a very good post as well. I can see the effort to be as comprehensive as possible. I am not commenting directly on your post because the site requires a separate registration for commenting. I don’t think you have missed anything.</p>
<p>The Supreme Court of India is one of the institutions which has retained my highest respect. And when it overturns a HC order, it is certainly worth deep thought. As you can see from the comment thread above, I have also gravitated towards supporting the SC’s decision, while understanding the rationale behind the HCs order at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahendra,
You&#039;ve done an excellent job in laying out the whole case here. I came upon your post while looking for what bloggers are saying about this so I can include that in my post.

Phew! What can I say. If I start here, I&#039;ll land up saying more than the original post :)

I&#039;ll keep it short. After reading the case in as much detail as possible, I feel both the courts did a fair job of handling the case and both had the best interests of the girl in mind. Some people have tried to make this into the American argument of pro-life vs pro-choice. I don&#039;t agree. Both the courts focused on the girl and not the child. It&#039;s clearly pro-choice.

Given how complicated the facts are, they made a sincere attempt to deal with it.

In my readings of other blog posts, I find that a lot of rage is misdirected because many didn&#039;t have all the facts of the case. The more I read it, the less anger I have towards the courts.

Anyhow...if u get a chance and time, do read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogher.com/can-raped-mentally-challenged-girl-raise-child&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post&lt;/a&gt; and let me know if I missed anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahendra,<br />
You’ve done an excellent job in laying out the whole case here. I came upon your post while looking for what bloggers are saying about this so I can include that in my post.</p>
<p>Phew! What can I say. If I start here, I’ll land up saying more than the original post <img src='http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I’ll keep it short. After reading the case in as much detail as possible, I feel both the courts did a fair job of handling the case and both had the best interests of the girl in mind. Some people have tried to make this into the American argument of pro-life vs pro-choice. I don’t agree. Both the courts focused on the girl and not the child. It’s clearly pro-choice.</p>
<p>Given how complicated the facts are, they made a sincere attempt to deal with it.</p>
<p>In my readings of other blog posts, I find that a lot of rage is misdirected because many didn’t have all the facts of the case. The more I read it, the less anger I have towards the courts.</p>
<p>Anyhow…if u get a chance and time, do read <a href="http://www.blogher.com/can-raped-mentally-challenged-girl-raise-child" rel="nofollow">my post</a> and let me know if I missed anything.</p>
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		<title>By: sakshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>sakshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys,Iam a child development student i ws told to present a report on wot ppl&#039;s opinons bout d judgement...but its really ironical dat ol,ol of youy ppl , d society d supreme court evry1 discussing bout d girl&#039;s pregnancy and its a big big issue now...and under this huge hipe noone remebers dat d poor girl with a 9 year old&#039;s IQ has been multipllyy raped...wot bout d punishments given to the rapists..only 4 are caught...under this huge hipe der crime is hiding and dey wud be released with some minor punishment as evry1 is worried bout d girl&#039;s pregnancy...guys d trauma and pain of rape for a mentally challenged is just d same as a normal girl...and v shud put more light on d convicts so dey dont hide behind d hipe we ol r making...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys,Iam a child development student i ws told to present a report on wot ppl’s opinons bout d judgement…but its really ironical dat ol,ol of youy ppl , d society d supreme court evry1 discussing bout d girl’s pregnancy and its a big big issue now…and under this huge hipe noone remebers dat d poor girl with a 9 year old’s IQ has been multipllyy raped…wot bout d punishments given to the rapists..only 4 are caught…under this huge hipe der crime is hiding and dey wud be released with some minor punishment as evry1 is worried bout d girl’s pregnancy…guys d trauma and pain of rape for a mentally challenged is just d same as a normal girl…and v shud put more light on d convicts so dey dont hide behind d hipe we ol r making…</p>
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		<title>By: priya</title>
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		<dc:creator>priya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this judgement completely futile . How can a mentally challenged woman allowed to have a baby when she is not competent to raise her child . The court by allowing her to deliver the baby is adding one more orphan to the society . How can you expect any NGO to fill the place of a mother . None can take care of a child as better as a mother and the court expecting that from an institiution is something which cannot be assimilated . By chance if it is a girl child and she is left at the mercy of an institiution ..the same thing can happen to her as it happened to her mother ..sexual abuse ... How can the life of the child be secure without a parent . i dont respect this  judgement sorry! . Further we are talking about the right of  a woman who even dont know what a  &quot;right &quot; is ..she cant enjoy the motherhood , she is completely unaware of the whole misfortune .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this judgement completely futile . How can a mentally challenged woman allowed to have a baby when she is not competent to raise her child . The court by allowing her to deliver the baby is adding one more orphan to the society . How can you expect any NGO to fill the place of a mother . None can take care of a child as better as a mother and the court expecting that from an institiution is something which cannot be assimilated . By chance if it is a girl child and she is left at the mercy of an institiution ..the same thing can happen to her as it happened to her mother ..sexual abuse … How can the life of the child be secure without a parent . i dont respect this  judgement sorry! . Further we are talking about the right of  a woman who even dont know what a  “right ” is ..she cant enjoy the motherhood , she is completely unaware of the whole misfortune .</p>
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		<title>By: ekswitaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>ekswitaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fair to be concerned about the child absolutely, and without social programs that provide appropriate support the victory certainly is not a complete one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s fair to be concerned about the child absolutely, and without social programs that provide appropriate support the victory certainly is not a complete one.</p>
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		<title>By: rambodoc</title>
		<link>http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2009/07/29/mentally-challenged-raped-pregnant-abort/#comment-2947</link>
		<dc:creator>rambodoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I meant the comment by Ekswitaj.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I meant the comment by Ekswitaj.</p>
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