Pune Blog Camp 2: Reflections

Many folks asked me for an update on Pune’s Blog Camp, after the previous photo-post. How was the experience? Was it worth it? Who was there?

Not being diplomatic, I can say that the experience was an interesting one for me, with positives and negatives. I had never been to any blog camp, bar camp, or Tweetup before, so I did not have any expectations, and that probably helped.logo-main-krity

There was an interesting discussion going on even before the blog camp in the comments to Navin Kabra’s PuneTech Why You Should Attend Pune Blog Camp post. At the other end of the spectrum, post-event, the insights from the camp led to Dhananjay Nene’s Why I was disappointed with Pune Blog Camp 2.

Some others have shared their experiences too. Sandeep has a largely positive thank you note at his blog The Mousetrap. Anant has a detailed write up on his blog, Rahul has an update on the Devil’s Workshop, Aniket has shared his awesome feeling about the camp at Melody in Dissonance, while Deep Ganatra raises an important concern about unintentional session-hijacking. Almost all of them have written about the various sessions that took place, so I will not repeat them. Nor will I remember the names of all the presenters! So I will just share a few of my thoughts. You can also read Pune Mirror and TOI’s coverage.

A word of thanks to the organizers is a must. Tarun Chandel led the tone of the camp beautifully, making people get comfortable with his opening presentation and stepping in to facilitate whenever he could. I think the facilitation needed more support – it seemed he was the only one intent on facilitating.

Meeting In Person

BlogCampPune 006There were a few specific people I wanted to meet and that was one of my motivations for going to the camp. There were a few surprises too. I knew about sites like Wogma and Track.in, and it was good to meet online entrepreneurs Meetu Kabra and Arun Prabhudesai in person. I met fellow Twitter contacts like Amit Paranjape, an entrepreneur who shares myriad interests like me, who was busy with his Smartphone throughout the camp as I’d expected! Dhananjay Nene, a software architect, was another Twitter contact and meeting him personally was a surprise as he wasn’t as old as he looked in his avatar!

Friends in need are friends on Friendfeed. I recognized Sandeep Gautam instantly, even if we had only recently started following each other on Friendfeed. Sandeep writes on psychology and neuroscience while being into software development and poetry, at The Mousetrap. Sneha Gore has done a survey-based research into motivations of young bloggers which I found interesting, and meeting Pune Mirror’s Vishal was also good.

Negatives

  • Despite what the self-analysis kit says, the camp was not centered around a theme or purpose. Blogging is a wide umbrella term for any camp to succeed without having a theme – SEO, journalism, the ubiquitous ‘musings’ – some theme is needed for greater audience-presenter harmony.
  • Despite all the marketing-SEO focused presentations, the Golden Rule of SEO was not emphasized at all, or I missed it altogether. Content is king. Period.BlogCampPune 005
  • No talk of the future of blogging. Yongfook, author of the popular open-source self-hosted Lifestreaming application SweetCron has proclaimed The Blog is Dead. Wired magazine advised not to start a new blog, and to pull the plug if you already had one. ReadWriteWeb asked if the future of blogging is lifetreaming. I thought these topics will come up in a ‘blog camp’, but either they didn’t or I missed them.
  • Sometimes, I felt disenchanted with the perspective of an SEO/Marketing oriented pro-blogger that looks at readers as pure numbers and statistics on a graph. Rather than a birds-eye view of traffic flowing on a freeway, I prefer seeking the company of people actually driving those cars – those who take the time to comment and share their ideas and opinions on my posts. But that’s just me.
  • Despite the monetization related talks, there was no talk about writing. I take the blame for this. As a professional writer who is making money out of writing on a blog, and not looking at promotion, marketing, or SEO, I could have talked about how you can earn money as a blog writer without being keen on SEO.

Positives

  • Meeting lots and lots of bloggers! And especially meeting the few I wrote about above.
  • The passion and entrepreneurship of youth that I witnessed was inspiring. Young people in their 20s have .com domains and are discussing SEO. Wow. I actually felt out of place.
  • Navin and Vishal’s presentation on what newspapers can learn from blogs and vice versa.
  • Sandeep’s presentation on niche science blogging.
  • Regional focus - Shantanu Oak talked about Devanagri spell-checking.
  • Seeing lots and lots of newbie or wannabe bloggers.

Lessons

  • BlogCampPune 016Bloggers should be on Twitter if they want to expand visibility of their blog.
  • Some folks try to make money out of blogging. The clever folks make money from bloggers.
  • The ‘blogger elite’ usually doesn’t comment on each other’s blogs. They use Twitter to keep in touch with each other.
  • I personally feel there should be disclaimers within the presentations on monetization, when a lot of impressionable young peo
    ple are in the audience. I could sense that many such people got the feeling that one can easily make money out of blogging, if one is geeky enough and knows a few ‘secrets’.
  • In a blog camp, the law of two feet is very important. I did it successfully – rather than being felt obliged to listen to sessions that I was not interested in, I preferred spending one-to-one time with people, which is what worked best for me.
  • If I go to a blog camp again, I will present. In retrospect, I could have shared:

A few days back, Asuph asked how one can reduce the page rank of one’s blog and I replied. I would have loved to see the reactions if this exchange had happened at the blog camp!

Thus, all in all, an interesting experience. Will I go to another camp? If it is not centered around a specific theme, definitely not. Else, depends on the theme!

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25 Comments

  • That’s really cool. Thanks for pro­vid­ing a sum­mary. There were few sur­prises for me on your thoughts about Twit­ter and mon­e­tiz­ing. Oh and I noticed you reverted to a sim­pler theme.

  • Thanks for the detailed write up. Iam not aware of any such blog camps hap­pen­ing around my area; though I would love to visit such camps. Even though I have been blog­ging for a while, I have just met one blog­ger in real till now, and that also hap­pened when I went to India early this year. Here in Canada and even in US, blog­ging does not have much of a social dimen­sion as it’s in India. If I look at Indian blog­gers, mostly it’s social blog­ging where blog­gers meet new peo­ple and even make quite a few friends through their blog­ging. I read a study also on this once when I was research­ing for a pre­sen­ta­tion on India. It said that in India, approx 90% of blog­ging is social in nature com­pared to just 25–30% in the US.
    As for twit­ter­ing, Iam quite happy with just blog­ging as of now. Iam not sure if I wanna use twit­ter as I find it bit intru­sive for my taste..besides, I do my bit of twit­ter­ing on face­book through my sta­tus mes­sages. :)

  • Let me ask a real dumb ques­tion — What/Who is an SEO?

    Arun

  • Nice post. I liked the com­pre­hen­sive­ness, the bal­ance, and most impor­tantly the intro­duc­tion of “What I (not oth­ers) could have done differently”.

    A coun­teropin­ion on the event theme how­ever. I choose to favour broadly themed events with threads focus­ing on dif­fer­ent themes thus allow­ing for a more inter­est­ing and con­trast­ing peo­ple dis­cov­ery and inter­ac­tions (so long as there are mul­ti­ple par­al­lel ses­sions being held).

    Great post. +1

  • just read­ing this post makes you feel there’s so much to learn.. I get very con­fused with the SEO thing and though I have recently got a guide on using blog­ger, have been get­ting hope­lessly lost in the html codes and stuff.
    can you sug­gest where one can learn to make a cus­tomized tem­plate?
    also, curi­ous abt the les­son that elite blog­gers twit­ter instead of com­ment. could you elab­o­rate on advan­tage tht twit­ter has to a string of dis­cus­sions on the com­ment thread itself?

  • Pos­si­bly related :

    http://asuph.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/blogs-blog-camps-and-a-thousand-words/

    (Yeah, I’m being a pub­lic­ity hound now, con­trary to every­thing writ­ten in that post).

    cheers,
    asuph

  • Thanks mahen­dra for link­ing in, and that post actu­ally inspire’s me to think WHAT I CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER NEXT TIME.

    I will be updat­ing my blog soon on how can i make a dif­fer­nece or con­tri­bu­tion to blog camp or as a mat­ter of fact any camp next time.

  • Mahen­dra, firstly it’s good to see your face. :)
    And that was a nice com­pre­hen­sive look at what hap­pened at the blog camp. I have never been to one and was curi­ous about these things. Some­how I never thought these blog camps were any­thing more than social get togeth­ers and so I avoided them!

  • Hi Mahen­dra,

    Con­grat­u­la­tions to you and Dhanan­jaye for being hon­est and forth­right while nar­rat­ing your expe­ri­ences. Its heart­en­ing to note that you real­ize that it is up to us who attend the blog­capms to make it interesting/ use­ful and that you have decided that you are going to do some­thing about that next time.

    Read­ing other post-blogcamp analy­sis (from the above thread as well as else­where) I’m really deeply puz­zled about the frag­men­tary nature of our blog­ging real­ity and what diverse peo­ple expect from blog­camps– one can see that for some fun ele­ment is para­mount (Thakkar rocks; all the ‘gyan’ or for­mal ppts sucks; to oth­ers the dis­ap­point­ment revolves around focus on monetization/SEO vs. con­tent; while I believe for most of the peo­ple party was spoiled even before it started with one group of blog­gers (topical/serious?) pit­ted vs the other group (personal/whimiscal?) of bloggers.

    Per­haps we need mul­ti­ple threads with all permutation/combination of above and yet per­haps the great­est real­iza­tion is not whether there are mul­ti­ple threads or less– it is about par­tic­i­pa­tion as you pointed out in your post — that you should have taken a ses­sion your­self and made it what your vision of a blog­camp should be.

    Its good we are see­ing some debate on what a blog­camp should be and how it should be unor­ag­nized– hope­fully we’ll see more vari­ety in sessions(by hav­ing mul­ti­ple pre-themed threads and strict timed events — but then that would nec­es­sar­ily make peo­ple like asuph feel unwanted who value spon­tane­ity more– and per­haps that is one sort of peo­ple we should try to attract more to such events) . Lets not doubt our abil­i­ties to get what we want– as long as we are will­ing to work from within the sys­tem and open to change — we need not be restricted by what blog­camps are sup­posed to be or how they have his­tor­i­cally been unor­gan­ised. But whichever way we go, lets try to inte­grate all streams and con­cepts of what blog­ging means to dif­fer­ent peo­ple and I would cer­tainly feel uneasy if we end up with just one sort of peo­ple at the blog­camps and focus­ing on one par­tic­u­lar ver­sion of the blog­ging story.

  • Great thoughts, may be you should also take a look at Clay Shirke views on New ways of social­iz­ing, here » .
    I was not aware of any such event either, with a Week in Pune could have extended, stay and stopped for metting.

  • Hi Mahen­dra,
    Thanks for point­ing this out and also mak­ing us think as to how can we con­tribute to this and when i searched for areas where i can con­tribute and they were many, so listed them out here http://blog.anantshri.info/2009/07/04/blog-camp-pune-2-reaction-continue/

    also list­ing all of them here in order reduce pain of click­ing the link

    list of top­ics i can con­tribute to or dis­cuss about

    * Peek into word­press plu­gin devel­op­ment (basic intro) based on My pro­files plugin(still under devel­op­ment)
    * Word­press cus­tomiza­tion tips includ­ing (speed enhance­ment)
    * Chang­ing world of inter­net with web 2.0 / 3.0 and its impor­tance to us. (intro to web 2.0 for those new to this con­cept)
    * A peek into the world of blog­ging clients. I am talk­ing about clients not servers. (ex scribefire or bleezer or flock)
    * Why i still blog even though i am also lot more then just active @ twit­ter, orkut, face­book or what not.

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  • Search Engine Optimization.

  • Indi­ans are much more social in their upbring­ing and cul­ture, and I guess that reflects in the blog world.

    Face­book is des­per­ately com­pet­ing with Twit­ter and hence intro­duc­ing Twitter-like fea­tures every week or so. It will try hard to keep hard­core Face­book­ers to stick with it!

  • Thank you for the kind words!

    Yes, I do not mind mul­ti­ple threads with broad themes, but those themes must be defined before­hand. If num­ber of threads and theme top­ics are decided at the last minute, I doubt if it will work well.

    I also agree how that can lead to more inter­est­ing peo­ple dis­cov­ery — much like Twitter!

    I was reminded of a Microsoft PDC I once attended in San Diego in 1997. Hun­dreds of ses­sions in dozens of mul­ti­ple tracks with thou­sands of atten­dees, and all orga­nized flaw­lessly. It was amaz­ing. But it was not an uncon­fer­ence. ;-)

  • Bii­i­i­iig +1

  • Hi Sandeep,

    Thank you for your elab­o­rate and in-depth com­ment on the blog camp phe­nom­e­non. It was really a phe­nom­e­non as much online as well as actu­ally in the camp!

    Unlike you, I’m not deeply puz­zled. Blog­gers are not the aver­age Joes and Janes of soci­ety. Blog­gers are at least one or more of the fol­low­ing — independent-minded, cre­ative, want­ing to have their say, entre­pre­neurs, socialites, icon­o­clasts, geeks, lon­ers, mar­keters. Given that this rep­re­sents a frag­ment of the gen­eral pop­u­la­tion, and a frag­ment that com­prises of such extremes, it is hardly sur­pris­ing what would hap­pen if they decide to get together. :)

    I see in your thoughts as well as Dhananjay’s the desire that a blog­camp reflect this diver­sity with mul­ti­ple session-tracks. If a cer­tain type of blog­gers make the camp focus only on one blog­ging theme, it would make you feel uneasy and you would be disappointed.

    I share your desire, but not your opti­mism. I am a bit cyn­i­cal but that doesn’t mean I am not open to being cor­rected. I would love to attend a camp where folks like you, me, and Dhanan­jay are pre­sent­ing about seri­ous blog­ging in one track, marketing-SEO folks are pre­sent­ing in another track, personal/musings/dreams/fantasy folks in another and so on. I think orga­niz­ing such a camp would be a chal­lenge, espe­cially given the fact that the resources required to orga­nize such an event are more nat­u­rally gath­ered by marketing/SEO kind of entre­pre­neurs. I would not be sur­prised to learn that marketing/SEO ses­sions were pri­mary focus of most Indian blog camps. Are the other kinds of blog­gers will­ing to invest the time, effort, and resources to orga­nize a blog camp that does not adhere to gen­er­ally accepted guide­lines of such uncon­fer­ences and camps? That, to me, is the million-dollar ques­tion in this respect, and as of now, I do not have an answer.

  • Gauri, if you want to focus on writ­ing and improv­ing writ­ing skills, I sug­gest you put learn­ing HTML/CSS on the back­burner. Once you get sucked into web design, there’s no end to it! If you just search Google for ‘cus­tomize blog­ger tem­plate’ like this, you will get lots of tuto­ri­als. I pre­fer using free web­site build­ing sites that allow me to build cus­tom web­sites with­out learn­ing any HTML/CSS. The site where I write, MakeUseOf has tons of arti­cles about free web­site build­ing stuff, like this.

    The com­ment regard­ing elite blog­gers was a veiled jab at those who look at blogs as a vehi­cle for get­ting traf­fic and earn­ing money, not as a vehi­cle for mean­ing­ful inter­ac­tion and dis­cus­sion. Today, I find myself in between two extremes — my blog­ger friends who are not on Twit­ter on one hand, and oth­ers only using Twit­ter and neglect­ing their blogs alto­gether. I sin­cerely believe both forms of dis­cov­ery, com­mu­ni­ca­tion, infor­ma­tion shar­ing, and mak­ing friends, have their unique advan­tages, and in fact can com­ple­ment each other very well, as I seem to be find­ing in my expe­ri­ence. Some advan­tages of being on Twit­ter while being a blog­ger that come to mind at once are:

    - Tweets about your posts with appro­pri­ate hash-tags reach a much wider audi­ence, as well as a focused audi­ence, who are inter­ested in what you blogged about. For exam­ple, when I blogged about dif­fer­ent films in my films meme, some peo­ple with thou­sands of fol­low­ers on Twit­ter picked it up and re-tweeted it, poten­tially bring­ing many peo­ple to my posts who oth­er­wise would not have dis­cov­ered my blog at all.

    - Twit­ter gives you a good idea of what peo­ple are talk­ing about in real-time on the web. This can give you ideas about rel­e­vant things to blog about.

    - If I stick to hav­ing dis­cus­sions on blog posts, I have to visit mul­ti­ple blogs in my browser to read updates to the con­ver­sa­tion. When using a Twit­ter client like Tweet­deck, I have mul­ti­ple con­ver­sa­tions with mul­ti­ple peo­ple at the same time with­out even hav­ing to switch between tabs. For exam­ple, there are a few peo­ple you will see on this blog with whom I have had mul­ti­ple con­ver­sa­tions on Twit­ter, much more than on this or their blog. There are a few peo­ple you will not see on this blog, with whom I’ve had mul­ti­ple con­ver­sa­tions on Twitter.

    - Not every topic is wor­thy of a blog post. That’s the rea­son micro-blogging has become so popular.

    - If I’m read­ing some­thing you might like, or that is rel­e­vant to a post of yours, it is much eas­ier for me to tweet you about it, rather than vis­it­ing your blog, adding a com­ment, and then insert­ing that link to what I was read­ing. If you’re not on Twit­ter, I’m likely to sim­ply pass it up, and not visit your blog, and not share it with you. Who is the loser in this situation?

    To exag­ger­ate a bit, if you’re blog­ging to make friends on the Inter­net, then forc­ing vis­i­tors to get in touch with you via your blog com­ments sec­tion is like ask­ing your friends to visit your home if they want to inter­act with you. Not being on twit­ter is akin to not hav­ing a phone where your friends can sim­ply ring you up.

    Looks like this com­ment could have been a blog post in itself! So I’ll stop here. :)

  • Looks like you’ve writ­ten a the­sis on the topic! Didn’t expect it from you, must say, it is a pleas­ant surprise!

  • :) Thank you, Nita.

    Hope my post gave you at least some idea of what hap­pens at a blog camp. I was con­scious not to be pre­sump­tive about them, and hence over­came my gut feel that was the same as yours — that they would sim­ply be social­iz­ing events. I real­ized if I assumed them to be, I wouldn’t be open-minded. I had to expe­ri­ence at least one camp to form an opinion.

    I would say every camp would be unique. From some of the com­ments I’ve seen from peo­ple who have attended camps in Mum­bai, Ban­ga­lore, etc., it seems SEO/Marketing always has a strong focus and a cer­tain set of pop­u­lar blog­gers always seem to hog the lime­light. I would there­fore advise to know in advance who is com­ing and whom you’re inter­ested in meet­ing, and meet­ing them one-on-one. That’s what I did and that helped.

  • Hi Sunny, as I was a part of Twit­ter dur­ing the recent Iran events, noth­ing Clay says is a sur­prise — his views seem to be for those who were not using Twitter!

    Thanks for drop­ping by, and yes, would’ve been good if you had been there. Do you know where and how I came to know about this blog camp? On Twit­ter! ;)

  • Nice thoughts Mahen­dra. Thanks for ana­lyz­ing about it and writ­ing in detail. Iam now seri­ously think­ing if my lack of fond­ness for Twit­ter has much base..you have given me ideas. Although Iam still not sure that how will I han­dle too much intru­sive part of Twit­ter and also the pres­sure of tweet­ing mul­ti­ple times a day or atleast once a day if Iam not mis­taken. Rest, it looks like a great tool to com­mu­ni­cate with and learn from many peo­ple at one go, with­out really need­ing to visit mul­ti­ple web­sites as one does with blogs.

  • I didn’t expect it from me either ;-) .

  • Thank you. Yes, it’s a great tool for com­mu­ni­cat­ing, but like every­thing else, it is also being abused by spam­mers. I don’t want to urge any­one to use Twit­ter, just shar­ing my thoughts. There is noth­ing you’re com­pelled to do or pay atten­tion to in Twit­ter, so you can take it at your own pace. But the prob­lem is that it is addic­tive! ;-)