Comments on: Deadly Non-neutral Acid? (DNA) http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/ ...reason and emotion, shaken and stirred... Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:40:47 +0530 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mahendra http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1749 Mahendra Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:19:20 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1749 Hi HavahNegila, Welcome to my blog. The Gitmo situation is quite complex and is a long-standing blemish on what the US is supposed to stand for. I do not know much about the recent actions taken by Obama, and can only hope that the situation improves over time. Thank you for the distinction - it is quite important in the American context. As an Indian, I am not used to differentiating between state and federal crimes - in India, a crime is a crime, an arrest is an arrest, and a prison is a jail, not a 'correctional facility'. Individual states do not have their own versions of the law, and there is no separate Federal law. Your comment is very much appreciated, it's not at all nit-picky! Hi HavahNegila,
Welcome to my blog. The Gitmo situation is quite complex and is a long-standing blemish on what the US is supposed to stand for. I do not know much about the recent actions taken by Obama, and can only hope that the situation improves over time.

Thank you for the distinction — it is quite important in the American context. As an Indian, I am not used to differentiating between state and federal crimes — in India, a crime is a crime, an arrest is an arrest, and a prison is a jail, not a ‘correctional facility’. Individual states do not have their own versions of the law, and there is no separate Federal law. Your comment is very much appreciated, it’s not at all nit-picky!

]]> By: mystic_life http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1750 mystic_life Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:56:04 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1750 Hi, I completely agree with Paul's viewpoint-- and think there are lots of things that have come to pass in the last couple of years that are atrociously breaching our rights (Obama's enemy combatant policy, reinforcing what he said he would nullify regarding Bush's terrorism act: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/doj-detain-authority-3-13-09.pdf , etc.) #2 Also think there is an important distinction that was not made regarding policy in this blog. Not everyone who is being arrested is swabbed for DNA but only those arrested who are suspected for crimes on a FEDERAL level. This rules out the vast majority of the people going through the system... Just thought I would point it out, please don't think I'm nit-picky. Hi,
I completely agree with Paul’s viewpoint– and think there are lots of things that have come to pass in the last couple of years that are atrociously breaching our rights (Obama’s enemy combatant policy, reinforcing what he said he would nullify regarding Bush’s terrorism act:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/doj-detain-authority-3–13-09.pdf
, etc.)

#2 Also think there is an important distinction that was not made regarding policy in this blog. Not everyone who is being arrested is swabbed for DNA but only those arrested who are suspected for crimes on a FEDERAL level. This rules out the vast majority of the people going through the system… Just thought I would point it out, please don’t think I’m nit-picky.

]]> By: trisha http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1740 trisha Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:19:31 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1740 film after film passing by - when do we get to read ur take on em? why didnt my smiley open up in ur space? bad spacing or wrong code? n I do NOT look <em> down </em> upon ppl, just get away when am too full or fear being trampled or be snared like a hapless bird. film after film passing by — when do we get to read ur take on em? why didnt my smiley open up in ur space? bad spacing or wrong code? n I do NOT look down upon ppl, just get away when am too full or fear being trampled or be snared like a hapless bird.

]]> By: trisha http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1742 trisha Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:13:02 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1742 hi the last one was in Apr08? its going to be navratri here soon, come out-post-lets all be happy together!!:-)and pple are not diagnosing, its just a test, Mahendra o and there were 13blasts the other day here in my city-nobdy batted an eyelid, not a shutter was down even for half a day here, but I wish everybdy wd get printed and they wd do somthng fast bef they blow unmendable holes everywhere, byt the way why r all blasts confined to the western divide?what do u thnk? I was trying to goback and read archives,cdnt do it very well but it seems like theres an imaginary vertical.NE? never been blasts like this there, in 2 civil hospitals etc hi the last one was in Apr08? its going to be navratri here soon, come out-post-lets all be happy together!!:-)and pple are not diagnosing, its just a test, Mahendra o and there were 13blasts the other day here in my city-nobdy batted an eyelid, not a shutter was down even for half a day here, but I wish everybdy wd get printed and they wd do somthng fast bef they blow unmendable holes everywhere, byt the way why r all blasts confined to the western divide?what do u thnk? I was trying to goback and read archives,cdnt do it very well but it seems like theres an imaginary vertical.NE? never been blasts like this there, in 2 civil hospitals etc

]]> By: Bendtherulz http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1748 Bendtherulz Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:27:41 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1748 hibernating .....!!! Yeah yeah...with all this techie stuff going on...things still happen or should I say go wrong...! Personally -I dont mind (atleast it has not hurt my sensibilities so far) hibernating .….!!!

Yeah yeah…with all this techie stuff going on…things still happen or should I say go wrong…!
Personally –I dont mind (atleast it has not hurt my sensibilities so far)

]]> By: Jira http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1743 Jira Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:15:32 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1743 My first time here… If our DNA helps in proving we are not guilty, then well and good! Forensic science relies heavily on DNA analyses as a reliable method to identify the perpetrator of a crime. If one is a suspect, then I don’t see anything wrong in the police collecting their DNA and fingerprints. If someone’s girlfriend or spouse is murdered they are automatically suspects anyway, until proven innocent! What I am rather concerned about is how they fingerprint every foreign national entering the USA, and how the US government can monitor anyone’s phone calls etc. Now that is invasion of privacy. But is the government completely wrong for being over cautious? Maybe it is stretching the limits, but if the terrorists enter with student Visas what choice does the government have? I use a gamma irradiator for my studies and as recent as last week, everyone (even Americans) using that equipment was fingerprinted and their backgrounds checked by the FBI!! Now that is a stretch… Here in the USA, every single place we go to, be it the DMV, or a doctor’s office etc., one has to provide their SSN (social security number) which is almost as important as DNA. I find it very uncomfortable to see my SSN lying around in an office somewhere…I consider that a nuisance. Regarding self-testing and self-medicating.. Yup, some standard tests can be done by people at home, but I feel that a doctor’s diagnosis cannot be substituted by a few tests. Already with the information available on the internet people are diagnosing illness by themselves. This can be very misleading…But if the day comes when people can figure out what’s wrong with them without consulting a physician, I think doctors might be spending their time training for much advanced medical procedures…They have to retain their place in the society after all! My comment is longer than your post :) !! My first time here…
If our DNA helps in proving we are not guilty, then well and good! Forensic science relies heavily on DNA analyses as a reliable method to identify the perpetrator of a crime. If one is a suspect, then I don’t see anything wrong in the police collecting their DNA and fingerprints. If someone’s girlfriend or spouse is murdered they are automatically suspects anyway, until proven innocent!

What I am rather concerned about is how they fingerprint every foreign national entering the USA, and how the US government can monitor anyone’s phone calls etc. Now that is invasion of privacy. But is the government completely wrong for being over cautious? Maybe it is stretching the limits, but if the terrorists enter with student Visas what choice does the government have?
I use a gamma irradiator for my studies and as recent as last week, everyone (even Americans) using that equipment was fingerprinted and their backgrounds checked by the FBI!! Now that is a stretch…

Here in the USA, every single place we go to, be it the DMV, or a doctor’s office etc., one has to provide their SSN (social security number) which is almost as important as DNA. I find it very uncomfortable to see my SSN lying around in an office somewhere…I consider that a nuisance.

Regarding self-testing and self-medicating..
Yup, some standard tests can be done by people at home, but I feel that a doctor’s diagnosis cannot be substituted by a few tests. Already with the information available on the internet people are diagnosing illness by themselves. This can be very misleading…But if the day comes when people can figure out what’s wrong with them without consulting a physician, I think doctors might be spending their time training for much advanced medical procedures…They have to retain their place in the society after all!

My comment is longer than your post :) !!

]]> By: kaushal http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1747 kaushal Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:22:37 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1747 won't get this thing on my mind.. DNA or no DNA. i won't understand the science behind it won’t get this thing on my mind..
DNA or no DNA.
i won’t understand the science behind it

]]> By: Poonam Sharma http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1746 Poonam Sharma Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:19:22 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1746 @Nita: I recently bought a house, I was made to give prints for all my 10 fingers both during initial agreement and later registration. This is now a standard procedure and came into being about 2 years ago. @Ankur: You know the first part of your post that my DNA sample will be kept irrespective of the fact I am guilty or not rankles me a lot. In fact, I am suppressing the irrational fears of getting my identity sabotaged and misused (blame it on Hollywood and likes of Sheldons and Cooks). Do we have no right to protest this, why should they retain our DNA? @Nita: I recently bought a house, I was made to give prints for all my 10 fingers both during initial agreement and later registration. This is now a standard procedure and came into being about 2 years ago.

@Ankur: You know the first part of your post that my DNA sample will be kept irrespective of the fact I am guilty or not rankles me a lot. In fact, I am suppressing the irrational fears of getting my identity sabotaged and misused (blame it on Hollywood and likes of Sheldons and Cooks). Do we have no right to protest this, why should they retain our DNA?

]]> By: babu http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1745 babu Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:09:50 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1745 Hi! Saw your blog and liked it. Its informative. I also have a general blog http://jibonerakibuki.blogspot.com . Take a look at that sometimes. I also have a proposal for you. Can we write say 2 posts a month on each others blog? Say I will write about two post of yours and you do the same for me. We can also share other business modules and Ideas. Let me know if my proposal interests you. Thanking you in anticipation. Regards, Babu Banik. Hi! Saw your blog and liked it. Its informative. I also have a general blog http://jibonerakibuki.blogspot.com . Take a look at that sometimes. I also have a proposal for you. Can we write say 2 posts a month on each others blog? Say I will write about two post of yours and you do the same for me. We can also share other business modules and Ideas. Let me know if my proposal interests you.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Regards,
Babu Banik.

]]> By: Zany http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1744 Zany Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:23:05 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2008/04/19/deadly-non-neutral-acid-dna/#comment-1744 Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit. cheers, Zany. Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway … nice blog to visit.

cheers, Zany.

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