Comments on: Law of Social Censorship http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/ ...reason and emotion, shaken and stirred... Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:23:57 +0530 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: trisha http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1499 trisha Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:39:54 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1499 so we need our Gokul till Kansha is slain. ;-) so we need our Gokul till Kansha is slain. ;-)

]]> By: trisha http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1498 trisha Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:37:45 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1498 am almost five months late to the post,but wd like to add this anyway,lets leave aside sex and sodomy-just think if I went the mahabharat way and followed Kunti and Madri's suit and had five sons from five maharathhis(and why shdnt I be able to decide the inheritance of my own child if my rights as a normal hetero woman is secure?)what then?and IVF is designer idea in medical science and legal right? organized anarchy?! we are so pretentious here.na gharka na ghatka. am almost five months late to the post,but wd like to add this anyway,lets leave aside sex and sodomy-just think if I went the mahabharat way and followed Kunti and Madri’s suit and had five sons from five maharathhis(and why shdnt I be able to decide the inheritance of my own child if my rights as a normal hetero woman is secure?)what then?and IVF is designer idea in medical science and legal right? organized anarchy?! we are so pretentious here.na gharka na ghatka.

]]> By: mahendrap http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1486 mahendrap Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:36:06 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1486 Oemar: thanks. Yes, what you say is very true. It's sad that that's how things are in India. Oemar: thanks. Yes, what you say is very true. It’s sad that that’s how things are in India.

]]> By: oemar http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1483 oemar Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:11:47 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1483 I am coming a bit late to this post.... and I would agree with a lot of comments and your law... sadly, the famous figures (read politicians, not social workers) leave no opportunity to increase their votebank, be it the matter of censorship.... the most basic of freedom of speech is given caste/communal colour and then banned... either everything is ok or nothing is. I am coming a bit late to this post…. and I would agree with a lot of comments and your law… sadly, the famous figures (read politicians, not social workers) leave no opportunity to increase their votebank, be it the matter of censorship…. the most basic of freedom of speech is given caste/communal colour and then banned… either everything is ok or nothing is.

]]> By: mahendrap http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1485 mahendrap Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:08:28 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1485 Priyank: Standing on the street and declaring you are gay would be fine; not many folks are likely to do much about it. But try doing the same in an Indian talk show on television, and you'll know what I'm talking about! :-) I'm not as hopeful as you. Even Pakistan has had a transsexual on TV, but we do not have any such thing in India. Priyank: Standing on the street and declaring you are gay would be fine; not many folks are likely to do much about it.

But try doing the same in an Indian talk show on television, and you’ll know what I’m talking about! :-)

I’m not as hopeful as you.

Even Pakistan has had a transsexual on TV, but we do not have any such thing in India.

]]> By: Priyank http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1484 Priyank Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:45:22 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1484 PS: If we *are* eventually going to be loaded with another person from the dynasty, my choice would be Priyanka :p PS: If we *are* eventually going to be loaded with another person from the dynasty, my choice would be Priyanka :p

]]> By: Priyank http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1482 Priyank Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:40:43 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1482 //it is like saying Hinduism is legal until and unless you do not go to any temple or perform any pooja. Ha ha, yes in the practical sense. But this subtleness or (loop)hole in the law is what keeps us (homosexuals) hopeful. I can stand on the street and say I'm gay without being arrested, you know what I mean? :) //it is like saying Hinduism is legal until and unless you do not go to any temple or perform any pooja.

Ha ha, yes in the practical sense. But this subtleness or (loop)hole in the law is what keeps us (homosexuals) hopeful. I can stand on the street and say I’m gay without being arrested, you know what I mean? :)

]]> By: mahendrap http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1481 mahendrap Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:58:29 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1481 <strong>Paul</strong>: Thank you. I was just waiting to see when someone would point out the universality of this law! :-) But India takes the lead in its implementation - folks who oppose on moral grounds feel free to break all the other laws in the country! They'll resort to mob violence and threats on life. Recently, a right-wing group put a price on the head of a politician because he refuted the existence of Lord Ram in public. At least that doesn't happen in the US. Paul: Thank you. I was just waiting to see when someone would point out the universality of this law! :-)

But India takes the lead in its implementation – folks who oppose on moral grounds feel free to break all the other laws in the country! They’ll resort to mob violence and threats on life. Recently, a right-wing group put a price on the head of a politician because he refuted the existence of Lord Ram in public. At least that doesn’t happen in the US.

]]> By: Paul Sunstone http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1480 Paul Sunstone Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:59:45 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1480 I think that's pretty much a universal law, Mahendra. It could just as easily apply to the US as to India. I live in the same city as is headquarters to Focus on the Family, which employs 3,000 people in its effort to reverse any sexual freedoms that have been gained in this country since the 1960's -- and almost every argument it makes for reversing those freedoms is made on allegedly moral grounds. I think that’s pretty much a universal law, Mahendra. It could just as easily apply to the US as to India.

I live in the same city as is headquarters to Focus on the Family, which employs 3,000 people in its effort to reverse any sexual freedoms that have been gained in this country since the 1960’s — and almost every argument it makes for reversing those freedoms is made on allegedly moral grounds.

]]> By: mahendrap http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1497 mahendrap Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:40:14 +0000 http://skeptic.skepticgeek.com/2007/10/15/law-of-social-censorship/#comment-1497 <strong>Priyank</strong>: You are correct in quoting IPC 377, but how does that make homosexuality legal and not a crime? Various NGOs in India have tried <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1400001.cms" rel="nofollow">repeatedly to repeal</a> 377, in vain. The last occasion I know of was in Feb 2006. The reason I singled out sodomy and homosexuality in the post is because mentions of oral sex do not seem to offend our moral activists as much as homosexuality, and bestiality is too uncommon in statistical terms to come under public discussion. And regarding sodomy being a criminal offense and homosexuality not being one: it is like saying Hinduism is legal until and unless you do not go to any temple or perform any pooja. A somewhat interesting discussion of the law is <a href="http://www.funonthenet.in/forums/index.php?topic=16125.0;wap2" rel="nofollow">here</a>. //I like your Law, it puts in one sentence what I’d take a paragraph to express!// Thank you! :-) //India was such open country until some hundred years ago. What went wrong?// Among other things, what Rambodoc has suggested! :-) It was interesting to read Nehru, Indira Gandhi, and Priyank(a) in the same breath! :-) Priyank: You are correct in quoting IPC 377, but how does that make homosexuality legal and not a crime? Various NGOs in India have tried repeatedly to repeal 377, in vain. The last occasion I know of was in Feb 2006.

The reason I singled out sodomy and homosexuality in the post is because mentions of oral sex do not seem to offend our moral activists as much as homosexuality, and bestiality is too uncommon in statistical terms to come under public discussion.

And regarding sodomy being a criminal offense and homosexuality not being one: it is like saying Hinduism is legal until and unless you do not go to any temple or perform any pooja. A somewhat interesting discussion of the law is here.

//I like your Law, it puts in one sentence what I’d take a paragraph to express!//
Thank you! :-)

//India was such open country until some hundred years ago. What went wrong?//
Among other things, what Rambodoc has suggested! :-) It was interesting to read Nehru, Indira Gandhi, and Priyank(a) in the same breath! :-)

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