Human Rights and Amnesty

Amnesty International (AI) is a worldwide movement of people who campaign for internationally recognized human rights. It is one of the foremost institutions, recognized worldwide, towards the fight for individual human rights.

Why is it called "Amnesty"? The definition of "Amnesty" is: "A general pardon granted by a government, especially for political offenses", or as a verb, "To grant a general pardon to."

Think about it. Why should human rights originate from a pardon? Isn't a right, a right? Does it have to be pardoned and then granted?

No. Human individual rights are inviolable, they cannot be 'granted' or 'pardoned'. Then why is the world's foremost human rights activist organization called "Amnesty"?

The answer, as often is the case, is economical, my friends. Amnesty International is funded by the Vatican. Remember Original Sin? According to the Christian doctrine, human rights can originate only if God 'pardons' man, hence the word "Amnesty".

Isn't this a logical paradox? Yes, it is. So what does Amnesty International think about abortion?

So far, it has been "neutral" on the topic. Now, someone inside Amnesty has had a rational light bulb moment, and they've decided that Amnesty will support abortion in cases of rape or incest. The Vatican is up in arms, as expected.

Human Rights and Catholicism? You must be joking! But, we aren't. This is the truth. Sigh.


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19 Comments

  • won­der­ful, won­der­ful post!
    I never cared to go deep into the word amnesty, and it is good that i hap­pened to pon­der over to your blog.

    I com­pletely agree with you on this post. Human rights should be com­pletely invi­o­lable. Though some­time back as a Chris­t­ian, even I was anti-abortions. But now as a pan­the­ist, I hold very dif­fer­ent viewpoints.

  • Narziss: Thanks for vis­it­ing and the com­pli­ment! I think if you spend enough time on my blog, I’ll turn you to an athe­ist! :-)

  • I’m going to make explicit of what I thought you hinted.
    Human rights are supreme, uni­ver­sal, above any­thing else. An orga­ni­za­tion that takes dik­tats from another orga­ni­za­tion that believes only God is supreme, can­not be expected to be the upholder of human rights.

  • I’ll quote Ram­bodic: you said it baby!

  • As in many, even most, instances in the real world, it is all about the money. If a doc­tor takes con­sult­ing fees from a device or drug com­pany and writes on their own prod­uct, he will stretch credulity if he says good things about it and main­tain that he was being objec­tive and true to his work (review of the device/drug). Sim­i­larly, if Amnesty is in bed with X, you can def­i­nitely take it as a fait accom­pli that they will be less than objec­tive, and even crooked, about things that involve reli­gious ‘rights’.
    Good one, Mahen­dra!
    ASIDE: I have (as MMP said about me in Self Cen­ter) a slight con­cern for you: your Freudian slip is sort of becom­ing your default mode. So far, the world has called me Rambodoc. You are call­ing me Rambodic?!

  • Fait accom­pli: They can’t accom­plish much in human rights if they believe in fate!

    No no, this was not that sort of a slip. This was inspi­ra­tion from Pre­rna! :-)

  • Never make such affir­ma­tive state­ments, my friend. And never under­es­ti­mate the expe­ri­ences of others.

    I have spent the last 5 years of my life research­ing and adapt­ing all kinds of dif­fer­ent philoso­phies, under­stand­ing the great depths of them. I was born a Hindu, I became a pas­sion­ate Athe­ist, then an Agnos­tic; after which I was a pas­sion­ate Chris­t­ian. And now I am a Pantheist.

    FYI, Pan­the­ism is NOT a reli­gion. It is a philo­soph­i­cal and log­i­cal belief sys­tem. And the “god” of pan­the­ism is not define in any­way close to the “god” of any other religion!

  • Narziss: I didn’t mean to under­es­ti­mate or offend you or you to take me seri­ously. I was just jok­ing. You have the full free­dom and right to believe and choose your own phi­los­o­phy as you deem fit.

  • Very inter­est­ing post. Just thought I should clar­ify a cou­ple points, though. My under­stand­ing is that Amnesty is not, in fact, affil­i­ated with the Catholic Church or the Vait­can. It was founded by a lay Catholic, and the rea­son the name Amnesty was cho­sen is that the orig­i­nal focus of the orga­ni­za­tion was on free­ing polit­i­cal pris­on­ers (obtain­ing amnesty for them). Still, in a broader con­text of human rights and reli­gion, and non­profit fund­ing, I do think you bring up some impor­tant points. Please let me know if you’d like links with the Amnesty info–I’m not sure if your com­ment app will cut them out or not.

  • Sneak­sleep: thank you very much for shed­ding more light on the issue. Yes, I con­cede that the Vat­i­can does not offi­cially fund AI. But the Catholic Church has been a “long time ally” and strong sup­porter of AI, and many of AI’s mem­bers are Catholic.

    Regard­ing roots of the name “Amnesty”, you’re prob­a­bly right. But when the orga­ni­za­tion decided on focus­ing on human rights in gen­eral, and not just polit­i­cal pris­on­ers, it should have cho­sen a bet­ter, more rep­re­sen­ta­tive title. Did the Catholic upbring­ing of many of its mem­bers play a role? I’m not sure.

    Any­how I’m glad they’re sup­port­ing abor­tion at least in cases of crimes against women!

    Once again, thanks for vis­it­ing and sharing.

    PS: feel free to include links in the com­ments. Just that if there are 2 or more links, the com­ment will come to me for moderation.

  • Hi again (and thanks for stop­ping by my blog). Here’s a link to the most rel­e­vant part of the FAQ on Amnesty’s site: http://web.amnesty.org/pages/aboutai-faq-eng#6

    I agree that there have been many Catholic mem­bers of Amnesty over the years, and that has undoubt­edly had some influ­ence on some of the organization’s deci­sions (given the demo­c­ra­tic process they use to set priorities)–though that influ­ence clearly wasn’t enough to stop the new pol­icy on abor­tion from going into effect. As for the name, I sup­pose it could have been Catholic influ­ence that led to keep­ing it even after the human rights goals were expanded, but the prag­ma­tist in me thinks it had much more to to with branding.

  • mahen­dra — do you think as a whole Amnesty Inter­na­tional has a “catholic view” because of this? Are they doing a lot of good, or do you think even in that there is always a pos­si­bil­ity of an ulte­rior motive and so really we can’t give them any credit until this con­nec­tion is removed?

    On the other hand, if not, are we split­ting hairs and per­haps being too ide­al­is­tic? If one must eval­u­ate every orga­ni­za­tion AND every indi­vid­ual by all their col­lec­tive actions and inten­tions — then we will find no one is per­fect. Many of us speak “talk the talk”, we rarely walk it.

    I guess I am sort of ambiva­lent here. I am will­ing in gen­eral to give orga­ni­za­tions credit usu­ally if they truly did help things become bet­ter in sit­u­a­tions (even in causes funded by reli­gious orga­ni­za­tions). But they do only if they are also allowed to do reli­gious ser­mons and con­ver­sions to the peo­ple they are help­ing — that would cross the line and no longer fall into advance­ment of pure human rights. But then are they really that dif­fer­ent from gov­ern­ment aid :) ?

  • Sneak­sleep: Regard­ing the name, we can only the­o­rize. I would love if your prama­tist con­jec­ture is true, but what makes me a pes­simist in this regard is the over­all con­ser­v­a­tivist move­ment grip­ping the west­ern world.

    Arun: When I wrote the post, I was under the impres­sion that the Vat­i­can is offi­cially fund­ing AI. Sneak­sleep cor­rected my per­cep­tions. The hair-splitting was never about whether in gen­eral AI is doing a lot of good or not.

    In my post, I also wanted to make the dis­tinc­tion that Priyank made explicit, that human rights are invi­o­lable, and can­not be granted. I will still stand by that hair-splitting! :-)

    I think I’m whole­heart­edly with your stance regard­ing giv­ing credit to orga­ni­za­tions. It is dif­fi­cult for any group of peo­ple to come together and do some real good, and as long as they don’t impinge on other human rights, they must be applauded!

  • I com­pletely agree with Priyank and you, Mahen­dra, that human rights are intrin­sic to humans and they do not need to be granted to us by any orga­ni­za­tion, gov­ern­ment, or deity. They are our birthright. Gov­ern­ments etc. that do not rec­og­nize our rights, or that vio­late them, are act­ing criminally.

  • man­hen­dra: I cer­tainly agree that human rights are intrin­sic and is not some­thing that is granted.

    Not as a counter to any­thing that has been said: I won­der if there is uni­ver­sal agree­ment to the def­i­n­i­tion “human rights” — like men­tioned in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights? And when I mean uni­ver­sal, I do not mean “gen­eral con­sen­sus” — I mean uni­ver­sal as in intrin­sic, invi­o­lable etc. etc. It says “the basic rights and free­doms to which all humans are enti­tled, often held to include the right to life and lib­erty, free­dom of thought and expres­sion, and equal­ity before the law.” If so, doesn’t it have non-absolute (i.e. uncer­tain and dynamic — not find­ing the right word here) terms? For exam­ple — “Free­dom of thought”, “Free­dom of expres­sion” and “Law”.

    I mean most of us feel that human rights are intrin­sic as a uni­ver­sally applic­a­ble thing — but do all of us share the same idea of human rights? If not, what does that mean? Con­sider a sim­ple thing: The law says I can­not enter your free, demo­c­ra­tic coun­try with­out a visa and pass­port, and can­not stay beyond a cer­tain time. Now how exactly is it uphold­ing my basic, intrin­sic right as a human?

  • Arun: thanks for rais­ing these ques­tions. The term “human rights” does not have “uni­ver­sal agree­ment” or “gen­eral con­sen­sus” not because the con­cept has “non-absolute” terms, but because the con­cept does not have a uni­ver­sal def­i­n­i­tion, based upon a ratio­nal epis­te­mol­ogy, to which all mankind agrees.

    The ratio­nal def­i­n­i­tion of human rights does indeed have absolute terms, includ­ing free­dom of thought and expression.

    Human rights are indeed intrin­sic and are uni­ver­sally applic­a­ble, but not all humans share the same def­i­n­i­tion of it. So, the ques­tion, what does it mean, has to have a con­text. If it is a ratio­nal philo­soph­i­cal con­text, there are clear answers. If it is based on the cur­rent human con­text, the answer depends upon who are you talk­ing about?

    Regard­ing the spe­cific exam­ple you cite regard­ing not being able to enter a free, demo­c­ra­tic coun­try with­out a visa, which intrin­sic human right are you refer­ring to? You can­not enter your neighbor’s house with­out his per­mis­sion. Just like you pro­tect your home from out­siders, a demo­c­ra­tic country’s peo­ple pro­tect its coun­try from out­siders, with a cer­tain for­eign pol­icy regard­ing who should enter, and how, and for what. As a human, you do not have the right to enter and gain the ben­e­fits of liv­ing in a for­eign land, just by the fact of being human.

    I apol­o­gize if I’m not get­ting your point.

  • mahen­dra — My point is if it has non-absolute, and dynamic aspects in its def­i­n­i­tion, then how can it be intrin­sic, invi­o­lable and never some­thing “that is granted”. I would think then it must be above cre­ations of indi­vid­ual humans or soc­i­ties e.g. coun­tries, par­tic­u­larly stuff which can change across gen­er­a­tions. For exam­ple, when you are born to this world — did you agree to all the bor­ders of all the coun­ties in the world? Why cant I set­tle in some remote cor­ner in Mon­tana where no one else is liv­ing? Con­versely aren’t you *granted* cit­i­zen­ship and thus the rights that go along?

    So my point (if any!) is that many aspects of human rights are indeed granted.

    Btw, don’t worry if you didn’t get my point, I am not sure I got it myself ;) . I was just “Think­ing out aloud” — I was not mak­ing an argu­ment on some­thing I was sure of. So it prob­a­bly has enough holes.

  • Arun: I made a mis­take in my com­ment above that I’ve cor­rected. I should’ve said “The ratio­nal def­i­n­i­tion of human rights does indeed have absolute terms”. Apolo­gies for that. I main­tain that human rights are intrin­sic, invi­o­lable, and not ‘granted’.

    Com­ing back to the point of “cit­i­zen­ship” and bor­der of coun­tries, etc.: in the ratio­nal def­i­n­i­tion of human rights, just by being born in one place, one doesn’t get any “right to prop­erty”, or any right to access or enter any­one else’s prop­erty. Cit­i­zen­ship is not a human right. In fact, far in the future, there may be a coun­try that grants “pro­ba­tion­ary cit­i­zen­ship” to every­one born there. Only when the pro­ba­tion­ary cit­i­zen reaches adult­hood (at what­ever age may be spec­i­fied as adult­hood then, it’s cur­rently 18 in most coun­tries), he will go through an eval­u­a­tion process, much like the ‘green card’ pro­cess­ing of the US. If the indi­vid­ual passes, he will be granted cit­i­zen­ship. If he shows Left­ist ten­den­cies, he will be expelled from the coun­try! :-)

    I don’t think there is any vio­la­tion of human rights in the above scenario.

    Regard­ing liv­ing in a remote area of Mon­tana where no one else is liv­ing: that land belongs to the US Gov­ern­ment. Human rights do not give you the right to squat over another’s property.

    But if I get your gen­eral drift, that many aspects of rights are granted, yes. There are many rights granted to cit­i­zens, and they dif­fer from coun­try to coun­try, depend­ing upon its con­sti­tu­tional and legal frame­work. But these rights (that are in addi­tion to, and over and above, human rights), are not what we refer to as “human rights”. I think this is where your doubts are com­ing from. Such rights are indeed “granted”.

    It is another mat­ter alto­gether, that there are many coun­tries whose laws under­cut human rights!

  • Amnesty Inter­na­tional is fun. They’re every­where and they’re doing every­thing. Just like Green­peace and other “founded by humans for humans” organisations.

    Human rights should be con­trolled in some cases. There should be no par­dons for those who have killed, raped or who have done some­thing really bad with­out any or very stu­pid rea­son. This, of course, doesn’t include Vendetta.

    And Amnesty Inter­na­tional should be cancelled.